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15 years 6 months ago #23513
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my name is fey not frey
so we must examine assumptions
i assume dark matter and dark spaces in star fields may be linked
because i have been taught that somehow dark matter influences how our galaxy exists
so i assume that if i cannot see light among starfields in our galaxy it may be a clue
so i asked a simple question "why do i see this?"
no one has answered my question except to shut the question down
what are your assumptions?
as i believe assumptions are the root of science
and i assume that since no one had posted here before me as far as i could tell at the time,
since no one else found that a site dedicated to asking "why?"
had posted about our lovely milky way galaxy
i felt at home in my simple observation and simple question
i can't give you any math and i can't quote any sources
i am only asking about what i see out there
my only assumption is that science is about asking good questions
saturn is lovely drifting
through the field of view
so we must examine assumptions
i assume dark matter and dark spaces in star fields may be linked
because i have been taught that somehow dark matter influences how our galaxy exists
so i assume that if i cannot see light among starfields in our galaxy it may be a clue
so i asked a simple question "why do i see this?"
no one has answered my question except to shut the question down
what are your assumptions?
as i believe assumptions are the root of science
and i assume that since no one had posted here before me as far as i could tell at the time,
since no one else found that a site dedicated to asking "why?"
had posted about our lovely milky way galaxy
i felt at home in my simple observation and simple question
i can't give you any math and i can't quote any sources
i am only asking about what i see out there
my only assumption is that science is about asking good questions
saturn is lovely drifting
through the field of view
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15 years 6 months ago #22810
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Sorry about the mix up on your name, Mr Fey. And thank you for reformulating your inquiry.
We use the assumptions of Deep Reality Physics (DRP, an outgowth of Meta Model cosmology). There are a number of papers and articles written by the founder of this website, astronomer Tom Van Flandern, that cover these ideas in detail. They are available by following the various tabs on the home page. There are also several books that you might want to study, by Tom and others. They are listed in various places around the Website, including our on line store where you can buy them. They are also available in most larger libraries.
An over simplified summary would be
<ul>
<li>The word universe is defined as everything that ever has, does, will or can exist
<ul>
<li>This means that there is only one universe</li>
<li>By definition it includes things that, in other theories, might be called "parallel" or "multiple" universes. DRP currently sees no need for such entities, but if it did they would be "sub-universes" rather than "universes".</li>
</ul>
<li>There are five dimensions. The coordinate axis for each is straight and extends to infinity in both directions
<ul>
<li>Three of space</li>
<li>One of size</li>
<li>One of time</li>
</ul>
<li>Miracles are not allowed
<ul>
<li>Every event must have an immediate cause
<ul>
<li>There is no true action at a distance</li>
<li>Physical contact at some level (even if we cannot presently detect the agents involved) is required for one physcal object to influence another physical object</li>
</ul>
<li>The cause must precede the event in time</li>
</li>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</li>
</ul>
===
So, why do you see what you see?
That is a pretty broad question. Can you narrow it down a little? DRP recognizes the existance of matter that we cannot presently detect, but this does not really translate to the modern concepts of "dark matter" and "dark energy".
This means, among other things, that our answer to your question will not be short and simple. How deep do you want to go?
Regards,
LB
We use the assumptions of Deep Reality Physics (DRP, an outgowth of Meta Model cosmology). There are a number of papers and articles written by the founder of this website, astronomer Tom Van Flandern, that cover these ideas in detail. They are available by following the various tabs on the home page. There are also several books that you might want to study, by Tom and others. They are listed in various places around the Website, including our on line store where you can buy them. They are also available in most larger libraries.
An over simplified summary would be
<ul>
<li>The word universe is defined as everything that ever has, does, will or can exist
<ul>
<li>This means that there is only one universe</li>
<li>By definition it includes things that, in other theories, might be called "parallel" or "multiple" universes. DRP currently sees no need for such entities, but if it did they would be "sub-universes" rather than "universes".</li>
</ul>
<li>There are five dimensions. The coordinate axis for each is straight and extends to infinity in both directions
<ul>
<li>Three of space</li>
<li>One of size</li>
<li>One of time</li>
</ul>
<li>Miracles are not allowed
<ul>
<li>Every event must have an immediate cause
<ul>
<li>There is no true action at a distance</li>
<li>Physical contact at some level (even if we cannot presently detect the agents involved) is required for one physcal object to influence another physical object</li>
</ul>
<li>The cause must precede the event in time</li>
</li>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
</li>
</ul>
===
So, why do you see what you see?
That is a pretty broad question. Can you narrow it down a little? DRP recognizes the existance of matter that we cannot presently detect, but this does not really translate to the modern concepts of "dark matter" and "dark energy".
This means, among other things, that our answer to your question will not be short and simple. How deep do you want to go?
Regards,
LB
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15 years 6 months ago #22811
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BTW, although math is vital for the doing of certain aspects of physics (and science in general) it is surprizing how far one can go without it (or with only basic math), if one uses realistic physical models to aid in thinking and discussing. That is one of the central themes of Deep Reality Physics.
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15 years 6 months ago #23514
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bless your heart, Mr. Burford
for giving me another chance
i will retire for a while and try to verbalize the sketchy model stuck in my mind as to why starfields covered with stars show black patches and trails out of the pattern
but why does no one else feel our milky way is central to the whole?
i agree with the idea that (what we see here must be consistent with what we would see anywhere) may be suspect
but if we understand home completely, will not that better explain the deep redshift objects?
i don't understand why there are no other posts about galaxies
again, thankyou, sir, for helping me learn
and gawd i love saturn!
saturn is lovely drifting
through the field of view
for giving me another chance
i will retire for a while and try to verbalize the sketchy model stuck in my mind as to why starfields covered with stars show black patches and trails out of the pattern
but why does no one else feel our milky way is central to the whole?
i agree with the idea that (what we see here must be consistent with what we would see anywhere) may be suspect
but if we understand home completely, will not that better explain the deep redshift objects?
i don't understand why there are no other posts about galaxies
again, thankyou, sir, for helping me learn
and gawd i love saturn!
saturn is lovely drifting
through the field of view
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15 years 5 months ago #23591
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plenty of you have taken the time to read my stumbling beginning
bless your hearts
has anyone else noticed any patterns of darkness in the visual field?
i see the array in the background of this fine site with the blues and the black and the stars
but
saturn is lovely drifting
through the field of view
bless your hearts
has anyone else noticed any patterns of darkness in the visual field?
i see the array in the background of this fine site with the blues and the black and the stars
but
saturn is lovely drifting
through the field of view
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