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xterrester Posted - 22 Jun 2009 : 00:52:55
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xterrester Posted - 21 Jun 2009 : 01:17:54

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xterrester Posted - 30 May 2009 : 04:48:33
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xterrester Posted - 04 Jan 2007 : 02:20:31
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RobRatliff Posted - 03 Dec 2006 : 20:31:22
Can someone zoom in on the 2 heads sticking out of the ground in the center of this pic and crop it for me id like to post this cropped but can get it to work.the pic being the one above,from an older post i made.
RobRatliff Posted - 03 Mar 2006 : 14:57:54
Hope this works,see how many faces you see sticking out of the rocks.there is alot more than first noticed.
6sides Posted - 17 Jan 2006 : 20:53:11
quote:
Originally posted by 6sides

Mars: Atmosphere so thin that you require heat shield, parachute and can't make your mind up over what style of glider to send there.

I have seen an image in the database where the clouds are very low obscuring the sun. An overcast day, supporting tons of water above the Rover, maybe that description is better for you.

The sun is hyperactive, that world is heating up, the poles are melting away, the atmosphere gets thicker.

Go pay to read R.Hoagland if honesty is too rich for your taste.
He certainly isn't telling about the technological artifacts stuck on chunks of brimstone in the asteroid belt either.

http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=titanorb9wq.jpg



Titan: Orb at 2 o'clock.
(click link for full size).

I saw a small (circa 3-5 metres diameter) jet black orb back in 2003, in London, holding position (rock steady), I'd say about 20 metres altitude above a local school. At close range during daylight (sunny, clear sky).

This was actually a minor event, compared to the few that I have witnessed, with others present. I have disclosed this incident, due to the common occurance of this type of device. On Earth, Mars and now Titan.

I watched the night sky for years and saw nothing, until the summer of 2000. I was neutral until then, but always drawn into observing space.
Obsessed with it.

Theory: They want some of us to see them?

Sceptics: I understand your eagerness in rejecting this reality.
I don't buy half the stories I've heard on Shoutcast UFO radio stations.

I don't care to convert a single sceptic, you choose your own path. Having some of my questions answered is satisfying enough.

PS. Why not learn to understand hieroglyphics? Or do you prefer to allow the experts to tell you everything about yourself and your family? There are some uncomfortable truths that the experts, secondhand smoke historians, movie and mainstream documentary makers have decided to protect you from.

The British museum is free to enter, everyday.


6sides Posted - 17 Jan 2006 : 20:47:32

Dangus Posted - 12 Dec 2005 : 02:05:51
Mars is very dusty, and very windy, even if the atmosphere is not that thick. While I think these dots warrant some investigation, I don't see how there's any evidence at this point that they are anything but debris on the lense. They MAY represent something else, but jumping to the conclusion that they are aircraft is going too far.

As for the Egyptian heiroglyphics, they don't seem to show a helicopter to me at all. That looks a lot like a burial sarcophagus with the traditional cane being held in it's "hands". There are some very smart people who have put a lot of time into decrypting that language and many of them have provided some very good explainations for what the various symbols mean.

As for secret chambers filled with disks containing the knowledge of the universe, I don't believe it for a second. If those guys had found that, they'd be ruling the world right now. No sane person would have left a discovery like that untouched. Why is it so hard to believe that humans put together a very amazing project with relatively low technology means and created something incredible? Yes there are mysteries in the whole deal, and yes, some of them have not been answered adequately at all, but to jump from that to aliens is going too far.

It's just like evolution. Some people think dinosaurs became birds, but it was not until intermediate fossils began to be found that the theory was accepted as likely, and investigation into it became more serious. Same thing here. Find us evidence of the transition stages here. If Earth was settled by aliens, and those are our ancestors, where did all the technology go? If the pyramids were some sort of advanced superweapon, why are they falling apart?

Also, radio carbon dating is extremely inaccurate when looked at by itself. It only tells you when that carbon 14 was formed. A whole slew of things could screw that up. I believe Mr. Van Flandern mentioned something about how the exploded planet could have done something of the sort. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions based on radio carbon dating.

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"Regret can only change the future" -Me

"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." Frank Herbert, Dune 1965
6sides Posted - 10 Dec 2005 : 10:09:09
The near vacuum atmosphere on the planet Mars and the wacky theories on how dust is lofted above the surface, the reality of developing aircraft with a wingspan around two metres to fly there, says it all really.

http://powerweb.grc.nasa.gov/doc/marsairplane.html

The 'experts' have been banging on about the vacuum theory for what reasons? Paid off or just simply dense, take your pick.
RobRatliff Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 18:47:55
i see a little image,but im talking about sol 603 panoramic cam pic 6.in the middle of the pic to the right is a whole head as plain as the nose on your face.then when you look some more you will see wine bottles and other faces.to the left of the head you will see three figures in the rocks and halph of a head side ways above them.this is worth a look i now have family and friends looking and they all see it.
Trinket Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 14:52:05
Rob,

Mars is a "Planet" contructed artistically with a facial basis.. Not a Planet with art on it.. but a planet of Art..Many think there are thousands of researchers studying Mars.. Your seven year old is gifted, as you seem to be also.. 99.9% of researchers have no clue as to the reality of Mars.. As for any researchers that would like to debate this point I am quite ready and willing..

Husband hill has no special relevance as the art is continous on the planet surface..

Any Image studied with tampering and low resolution in mind will lead you to these conclusions.. I just recently began working on sol 627.. can u see any faces in here?



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RobRatliff Posted - 18 Nov 2005 : 13:36:17
If you guys like to see images on mars. on the rover website look at the pic husband hill zoom in on the rocks in the background using preview and see how many faces, what looks like broken statues and art affacts that are in the rocks and on the ground my 7 year old picked out about 10.I almost fell out of my chair.one face even has a beard.
Michiel Posted - 25 Sep 2005 : 16:01:20
IE6 has the option:
Menu Extra/ Internet options/ Advanced tab/ Multimedia/ Uncheck 'show images'
Only placeholders are displayed which you can right-click to show the picture. Unfortunatly you lose the icons too.

Still I think it's better to post links instead of images unless it's a small schematic or something.
PhilJ Posted - 25 Sep 2005 : 14:44:38
X, my cat thanks says, "Thank mew, X!" Her litter box just got cleaned, and the room it's in got vacuumed, while I was waiting for your pix to download all over again.

I am using a totally free ISP. I am usually connected at 46,666 baud; but they often put me on hold for several minutes between 2-second bursts of data. Depending on how busy the ISP is, I get fair to terrible service.

Michael, thanx for your support.
quote:
Some browsers have the option to stop downloading pictures, but this has side effects (try it).
I haven't figured out how to stop downloading pix with my IE6 browser. Does it have something to do with the "Show Picture" option when I right-click on an image? Can I stop downloading pix at the top of the page and still get the pix at the bottom?

Larry and X,
It's possible you got a double post because both of you were editing the same message at the same time. Otherwise, changes made by one of you would have been lost.
Michiel Posted - 25 Sep 2005 : 10:42:43
xterrester:
"In regards to your remarks about having to view the same images over
and over again, unless my recollection is faulty about the posting
of this image, I believe that this is the first time I have posted a
clip from this image."

The problem for people with a low bandwidth internet connection is that each time
they open a page they are forced to download all pictures. This page (*) alone contains
3.5 MB of graphics. Imagine having to download the same 3.5 MB on a phoneline every
time you want to read or post a 1kB message.

Some browsers have the option to stop downloading pictures, but this has side effects (try it).
It's better just to post a link, I think, and let people decide for themselves if
they want to download the picture or not.


(*) Of course when I posted this message it ended up on a new page....
Larry Burford Posted - 25 Sep 2005 : 09:18:15
xterrester,

I made over a dozen edits to your post and never got a duplicate. I
suspect some interaction between the tools you are using (browser,
editor, etc.) and the message board here, but ...

Computers do what we tell them to do, rather than what we want them
to do. And what we tell them to do is a combination of
1) the buttons we push as we operate a particular program
2) the the buttons pushed by the guy that wrote that program
3) the buttons pushed by the guy that wrote the operating system
4) the phase of Venus relative to the phase of Luna.
5) to a lesser extent, and less often, hardware design.

(Well, maybe #4 is not always relavant, but it seems to occasionally
come into play.)

As you can see I was able to control the length of the lines by
placing a carriage return (pressing Enter) at the end of each
pysical line in the MB editor. Otherwise the MB editor wants to let
lines of text be as wide as any images in a previous message. This
doesn't show up in the preview (unless there is also an inage in the
previewed message?).

LB
xterrester Posted - 25 Sep 2005 : 06:17:24
Larry,

I'm having a problem with duplicate posts appearing again. Tried to edit previous post and when I submitted it it showed up as a duplicate post.
xterrester Posted - 25 Sep 2005 : 06:12:08

Sorry you are feeling so grumpy today. The image this clip is taken
from is huge. One of the reasons I posted a clip instead of posting
the whole image is that I was thinking of you and your previous
remarks about finding it difficult to download the really large
image files.

I did take your remarks to heart.

Even with enlargement some of the details that I think are worth
examining are hard to see so I do want to continue to post the clips
at enlarged sizes. For future postings I will onsider clips of
smaller areas.

As for image processing, my practice has been to note the image
processing steps that have been used right after the image
identification numbers at the top of each image post. If the image
is sharpened, rotated, enlarged, curve adjusted, equalized,
inverted, dodged or burned it will be noted. Just for the record I
almost always use the auto level and contrast adjustments and have
not been noting that as I do not feel those adjustments are
significant as to what can be seen in the image. However if others
would prefer those steps be listed as well I would be happy to do
so. The image clip in question is enlarged and dodged as noted.

In regards to your remarks about having to view the same images over
and over again, unless my recollection is faulty about the posting
of this image, I believe that this is the first time I have posted a
clip from this image. Possibly I am mistaken, I do admit to being
absentminded so you may be right. Some of the images I have posted
have areas that look similar. Occasionally I have reposted an image
because I felt there was something significant I missed the first
time or because it is relevant to a current post and I thought it
would be more convenient for the viewer to have the related image at
hand rather than having to go look back through the thread to refer
to it.

Almost all of the images that I work with were downloaded years ago
when the first internet image dumps were made by JPL. I downloaded
thousands of images and I'm glad I did because I can no longer find
some of them at the JPL site or the current image posted under the
identification number looks different to me than the original image
I downloaded with the same image identification numbers.

I have stored the original downloaded images, not image links. To
post a link I would go to google and type in the identification
number and pull up the link that way, although sometimes having the
link is of questionable value imo as I have had the experience on
several occasions of discovering that the current image linked to an
id number is different in some respects than the original downloaded
years ago, sometimes more out of focus and muddy, sometimes with
interesting details found in the original not found in the current
linked image, sometimes I have found the current image presented
upside down or reversed from the orientation of the original image.
I have addressed this previously in this thread with posted examples.

xterrester Posted - 24 Sep 2005 : 23:51:20
Phil,

Sorry you are feeling so grumpy today. The image this clip is taken from is huge. One of the reasons I posted a clip instead of posting the whole image is that I was thinking of you and your previous remarks about finding it difficult to download the really large image files.

I did take your remarks to heart.

Even with enlargement some of the details that I think are worth examining are hard to see so I do want to continue to post the clips at enlarged sizes. For future postings I will consider clips of smaller areas.

As for image processing, my practice has been to note the image processing steps that have been used right after the image identification numbers at the top of each image post. If the image is sharpened, rotated, enlarged, curve adjusted, equalized, inverted, dodged or burned it will be noted. Just for the record I almost always use the auto level and contrast adjustments and have not been noting that as I do not feel those adjustments are significant as to what can be seen in the image. However if others would prefer those steps be listed as well I would be happy to do so. The image clip in question is enlarged, dodged and burned as noted.

In regards to your remarks about having to view the same images over and over again, unless my recollection is faulty about the posting of this image, I believe that this is the first time I have posted a clip from this image. Possibly I am mistaken, I do admit to being absentminded so you may be right. Some of the images I have posted have areas that look similar. Occasionally I have reposted an image because I felt there was something significant I missed the first time or because it is relevant to a current post and I thought it would be more convenient for the viewer to have the related image at hand rather than having to go look back through the thread to refer to it.

Almost all of the images that I work with were downloaded years ago when the first internet image dumps were made by JPL. I downloaded thousands of images and I'm glad I did because I can no longer find some of them at the JPL site or the current image posted under the identification number looks different to me than the original image I downloaded with the same image identification numbers.

I have stored the original downloaded images, not image links. To post a link I would go to google and type in the identification number and pull up the link that way, although sometimes having the link is of questionable value imo as I have had the experience on several occasions of discovering that the current image linked to an id number is different in some respects than the original downloaded years ago, sometimes more out of focus and muddy, sometimes with interesting details found in the original not found in the current linked image, sometimes I have found the current image presented upside down or reversed from the orientation of the original image. I have addressed this previously in this thread with posted examples.


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